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October 26, 2020


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The final photo speaks volumes.

Glen Canyon Dam,
Man's obscene and futile attempt at domesticating mother nature.
The sand goes where the wind blows
and the rising silt at Glen Dam
will destroy what "manunkind"
has built.
Cal at 80 channeling ED Abbey.

Re Cal's post: Amen.

Glen Canyon
God could use some help.
Earth First and the Monkey Wrench gang?
and do we really think that
the Cartels aren't going to saw and blow holes in Trumps "beautiful" environmentally destructive wall?

Wall of the wild: animals on the US-Mexico border – in pictures


Seems a tad ironic to me that a rattlesnake or a bobcat can be detected and photographed but somehow a wall is the only answer for humans? Just another stain on our nation...

More than a Tad Sad?
Read "The Dreamt Land" by Mark Arax

My contribution to this discussion is a snapshot I took of the Santa Fe Super Chief passenger train as it paused at the Flagstaff Depot in the summer of 1973. All I had was a cheap Kodak Instamatic. Although Amtrak had taken over most of the US's passenger rail operations on May 1, 1971, it was still operating the Super Chief with its original Santa Fe equipment and staff when I took the photo. As the transition to Amtrak proceeded, the Santa Fe Railway perceived a decline in service standards on what had been its premier train and forced Amtrak to discontinue the use of the Super Chief name.

very nice Joe

Incredible photos. I was born in 1958. I certainly have no desire to have lived in the past, but I miss what must have been a time of national unity as opposed to what we have today.

Rich, you missed the best years.
Those before 1450.

This isn’t war-railroad related, but it is railroad-conflict related. A grandfather, on my mother’s side, who I was never allowed to meet, worked for the railroad between Albuquerque and Los Angeles including the time period mentioned here. There is a good likelihood he met the Delano guy. Anyway, the railroad job allowed my grandfather to maintain a family in Albuquerque and Los Angeles at the same time. A practice which is frowned upon in most states except Utah and part of Arizona. He is where my 1/4 Portuguese blood comes from, along with my love of trains.

Another anecdote related to Amtrak's southwest service.

I lived in Albuquerque in the early 80's and recall reading in the paper that Amtrak was discontinuing freshly prepared meals in the dining car. In particular, fresh trout was highlighted in the article as a meal that would no longer be cooked and served.

Joe, I took the Super Chief from Flag to Chicago in 1968, returning on the El Capitan (sitting car only). Amtrak now runs it as the Southwest Chief; earlier this month it reduced service from daily to 3x weekly due to a pandemic-induced drop in passengers.

"Not everything could be dieselized in 1943. Here's two steam locomotives heading up a passenger train at Kingman."

Why was this the case? Did steam-powered locomotives have more pulling power than diesel? On a side note, when the BNSF trains head south out of Denver, it's not uncommon to see three engines up front and one in the middle, as they'll need all that extra power to pull the long trains up and over Monument Hill (7,700 feet) just north of Colorado Springs.


The FT diesels were brand new and not enough had been built when war came. After that, the government didn't allow many to be produced (the diesel engines, for example, were needed for some Navy ships).

The Santa Fe, like every railroad of the era, had plenty of steam. It tried to use it mostly on passenger trains and troop trails ("Mains").

What you see on the Joint Line is called distributed power.

Thanks for the explanation, Jon. I really appreciate it!

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