"Roads? Where we're going we don't need roads."
The South Central line is one of the most promising additions to the Phoenix light-rail system (WBIYB). City Council has approved a plan to fast-track the five-mile extension to Baseline Road by 2023. But a crucial piece of the project isn't on the table, and as far as I know nobody is discussing it.
This line needs a slight rerouting: It needs to jog over the Third Avenue on Washington, then run south to Lincoln Street before moving back to Central for the journey south. This would provide two big benefits, one immediate and the other long term.
By shifting west, it would pick up large numbers of riders at the government centers of the city and county. But the big enchilada is that the line would pass just to the east of Union Station, which was Phoenix's intercity passenger rail depot until the 1990s.
Light rail might need a tunnel under the current Union Pacific line, but it would be worth it. The payoff would be connecting light rail with a reborn Union Station as the hub for a region-wide commuter train system as well as the return of Amtrak to Tucson and Los Angeles.
If Phoenix fails to do this, it will be a blunder to be regretted for decades to come.
San Diego's lovely Santa Fe depot is busier than ever before, handling Amtrak Surfliner trains to Los Angeles, as well as Coaster commuter trains that connect downtown with seaside communities all the way north to Oceanside (where it connects with LA's Metrolink). Right on the other side of this station is light rail: the San Diego Trolley's red, blue, and green lines.
In Denver, historic Union Station has been magnificently reborn to handle intercity, commuter, and light-rail trains. This is on top of a 2014 restoration that added top restaurants, bars, shops, and a boutique hotel. The New York Times reported:
The station is the focal point of a $500 million project to reorder Denver’s transit system, creating a hub for Amtrak, additional light-rail lines throughout the city (three are expected to open this year) and local and national bus services. Currently an estimated 30,000 commuters and visitors use Union Station daily. With the introduction of the new airport train, named the University of Colorado A Line, management expects traffic will climb to 104,000 people daily by year’s end.
Seattle's King Street station has been beautifully restored. It handles intercity trains — long distance to San Francisco, LA, and Chicago, as well as the Cascades service between Vancouver, B.C., and Portland and Eugene, Ore. Step across the street and you can catch the Link light rail.
It's hard to believe that the nation's sixth- (or fifth-) largest city is incapable of using these models to reclaim one of the most beautiful buildings in the Southwest, which has been used to house telecom equipment for Sprint (which had its origins as a unit of the Southern Pacific Railroad).
For all the utility of light rail, it works best on short jaunts, especially in more dense areas where transit-oriented development has sprung up. For a metro as far flung as Phoenix, commuter trains are also needed.
As I have written before, in the 2000s I took part in meetings in Buckeye to help plan the town/city's future. According to a survey of Buckeye residents, the No. 1 thing they wanted was commuter-train service to Phoenix. Not freeways. Trains. And it's easy to see why. Commuter trains move fast, have limited stops, and riders can read or work (free wireless) on their journeys.
Phoenix is far behind here, not least because the Real Estate Industrial Complex wants to keep building freeways, including the shameful boondoggle around the South Mountains. Miami, Orlando, Austin, Nashville, Albuquerque, Minneapolis and Portland all have commuter trains. Salt Lake City is the center of a 90-mile commuter system. the FrontRunner, that reaches 80 percent of the state's population. A place doesn't have to be New York, Chicago, or Los Angeles. In the Bay Area, the popular CalTrain service from San Jose to San Francisco is being electrified for faster, even more environmentally friendly service.
Railroad rights of way are already in place between downtown Phoenix and Glendale, Peoria, Surprise, Sun City, and Wickenburg to the northwest; Avondale, Goodyear, and Buckeye to the west; Tempe, Mesa, Chandler, and Gilbert to the southeast.
Critics, who are usually so loving Arizona when a proposal involves extending the sprawl status quo, immediately turn grumpy about rail. "These lines are owned by the BNSF and Union Pacific railroads, successors to the Santa Fe and Southern Pacific, and they won't allow commuter trains on their rails!"
In fact, freight traffic to Phoenix is stagnant-to-declining and virtually non-existent on some lines. Phoenix no longer ships food and air conditioners to the nation. The issues are simply capacity and political will. For example, the Sounder trains in the Puget Sound region operate on tracks of the freight railroads. California's popular Capitol Corridor trains run on the UP. The railroad was helpful to establishing Salt Lake's FrontRunner. This is true of many other commuter systems. Government (which has spent decades subsidizing cars) needs to pay to expand rail capacity and help with maintenance. Political leaders need to learn from other jurisdictions on working with the freight railroads. Some lines could probably be purchased outright from the UP.
I write about plenty of opportunities that Phoenix will never grasp, even though they are needed there and proven by experience elsewhere. But this is one that shouldn't be dismissed as dreamy. Alter the South Central line to run past Union Station. It can be done.
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I totally agree that Union Station needs commuter and light rail service running by it daily, not just for the spiritual reawakening of that grand station, but also for transit-oriented development.
But what if we kept the South Central line along the current proposed route (which would take advantage of the existing Central/1st Ave tunnel beneath the UPRR) and instead we re-routed the Capitol/I-10 West line to run parallel to Union Station on its way west to the Capitol? That extension (well, to the Capitol building) has also been fast-tracked to 2023 and it would avoid having to build an underpass below the train tracks. Why not go Jefferson >> 3rd Ave >> Jackson and roll half a block in front of Union Station’s doors?
Posted by: Trevor Huxham | June 08, 2016 at 09:14 PM
I agree that Union Station must be connected, but I also agree with Trevor that it doesn't need to be the south line; the west line could either swing down to Jackson or, more likely, the currently proposed station could move a block west to 4th avenue to provide a direct visual and pedestrian connection to Union Station. 4th could be closed to vehicles to create a linear pedestrian plaza with abundant shade trees and activity - reducing the psychological distance and providing a more integrated hub. Denver had to make a similar compromise by located a light rail alignment a couple blocks north of Union Station and it works fine. Civic leaders must demand for this integration with Union station however, as the current plan is to keep the station closer to City Hall and there is inertia resistance to changing it. Plus most don't "get" Union Station's opportunity to serve as a major transformative project. Like almost every other project in Phoenix, the focus is on bean counting, not long term vision.
Posted by: Ex Phx Planner | June 09, 2016 at 08:49 AM
Planner,
Civic leaders? Do you actually know any?
Posted by: Mumbo Number Five | June 09, 2016 at 10:19 AM
phoenix to tucson---it's where the water flows and freight travels. now, today...
simple.
Posted by: dave | June 09, 2016 at 10:30 AM
Bring back trains to Phoenix! We are the 6th largest city in the US..I want to be able to take a train to Flagstaff, Tucson, California...it's insane that we currently cannot.
Posted by: Bea Fitzpatrick | June 09, 2016 at 10:40 AM
Great post, Jon, and good comments, all!
I tend to agree that, provided it is feasible to use the existing Central/1st Ave tunnels under the UP for LRT, the South line should stay there. If the tunnels have to be substantially rebuilt, anyway, then Third Avenue should be looked at for the reason Jon mentions.
With regard to the Capital-I-10 LRT line, I agree that it should go near Union Station (even if the other LRT line does). I do not agree that this line should go along I-10. LRT serves people, not cars. The West LRT line should use McDowell or Thomas (the latter is the heaviest used bus line in the Valley) even though it would cost more to put it there.
Besides, we should plan on having the commuter rail in place at some point--as the Buckeye folks want--and the I-10 LRT would closely parallel that.
We need to be aware that some of the LRT folks are convinced that THEY are commuter rail, when in fact the two modes serve different purposes for different markets.
Posted by: Robert H. Bohannan | June 09, 2016 at 01:09 PM
I know several of you feel you are thinking outside of the box. However, your thinking is still inside the box. You ASSUME transportation needs to get large amounts of people from outlying areas to downtown. Even travel within downtown still needing bus and light rail. Do you want to really step outside the box? Mandate through tax incentives and punitive tax penalties that every worker doing a job which can be done at home (telecommuting), MUST be done at home. There went a huge portion of the commuters in their reviled autos. Reduce the cars. Reduce the busses and yes reduce the trains.
Posted by: Mumbo Number Five | June 09, 2016 at 02:19 PM
Mumbo, U forgot, reduce the people.
Malthus.
Posted by: Cal lash | June 09, 2016 at 03:06 PM
I am totally unqualified to opine on the nuts-and-bolts of the topic; some might say that would be true about almost any topic.
But there is one thing I do have a little knowledge about is operations centers Union Station appears to be an operations center. If so it will be filled to the rafters with routers, switches and other communications equipment. Then there would be all the equipment needed to control and monitor the network. There might also be a lot of equipment and systems for billing purposes. The result of all this is that there are numerous fibers pulled into the facility from all directions. The equipment throws off a lot heat and a really good AC system is needed. A really fast and big back-up power supply is necessary also. I don’t know if telephone companies use microwave systems any more – but it appears there are at least two microwave towers on the property. Of course these could be converted for use by the local cellphone network.
What does all this mean? It’s going to be massively expensive to replace the facility with a new one somewhere else. Just like it would be massively expensive to build a new interstate train station somewhere else.
If you’re going to buy Union Station, doing it sooner rather than later is the way to go. A sale-lease back purchase with a five or a ten year rental agreement would probably be best.
But I think Phoenix Planner has the right idea. While you’d like to own Union Station, what you really need are the loading platforms and access to them. A new station nearby – like a block or two in any direction would work (as long as it’s a pleasant block or two). Provisions for baggage handling would also be needed.
Call me a skeptic – but I don’t see long distance trains to anywhere except maybe Tucson within the next couple of decades. Phoenix is uniquely unsuited to long distance passenger trains.
Posted by: wkg in bham | June 09, 2016 at 03:32 PM
The waiting room in Union Station, restored in the 1990s, is still there.
Poor Birmingham tore down its beautiful Terminal Station. What a loss:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Birmingham_Terminal_Station
Posted by: Rogue Columnist | June 09, 2016 at 03:37 PM
I certainly hope restoration comes to the train station. I once fantasized having a PI office upstairs. I think the desire to do light rail as indicated above is a far stretch given the political control of ADOT and their desire to build more freeways thus keeping the brethren employed.
NOTE:
Tonite I cruised central "downtown" after a bite to eat at The Phoenix Market. there were almost no people (except homeless) on the sidewalks. In the early 50's I recall "downtown" bustling with folks after sunset?
Maybe after June 15th things will pickup.
Posted by: Cal Lash | June 10, 2016 at 12:20 AM
http://kjzz.org/content/226089/john-james-transcontinental-rail-service-should-stop-phoenix
Posted by: John james | June 10, 2016 at 10:02 AM
The Downtown DASH bus could be re-routed to Jackson St and stop at 3rd Ave to provide nearby connectivity to Union Station.
Posted by: Sanjeev Ramchandra | June 10, 2016 at 06:28 PM
The Dash bus...that's inspiring. "Imagine a great city."
Posted by: Rogue Columnist | June 10, 2016 at 10:35 PM
@RC: Funny that you should bring up Birmingham Terminal Station. A recent book “Great Temple of Travel…1909-1969” was recently released (author = Marvin Clemons) tells its history. It’s what we call here a “coffee table book” with oversized pages, lots of photos and glossy paper). I’d heard about the station, but I really didn’t know much about it; it was torn down in 1969 and I didn’t even move here until 1990. Even to this day, old timers still bitch about the tear down. It’s only been, what, 47 years since the event. In its hay-day it truly was a gem. It was falling apart when it way torn down. This is a Phoenix focused site so I won’t go into lots of interesting trivial about the station – other than this: Terminal Station was built in 1909 due to gridlock at the L&N/Union Station downtown. Six long-haul lines and misc. short haul lines with 74 daily arrivals (except on Sunday when there were “only” 66).
Posted by: wkg in b ham | June 10, 2016 at 10:55 PM
With the rise of online commerce the need to travel "downtown" will be reduced in the future. Having a train that brings people into a downtown area would accommodate civic events, concerts and sports events. However, it is not nearly as imperative as it was in the past.
When autonomously driven cars are dispatched through a system similar to Uber, trains will be impediments to city travel. I think within the next twenty years or so this will be the reality we encounter.
Posted by: Joe | June 11, 2016 at 05:57 AM
Joe,
Uber and Google are working on,
"Beam me up Scottie."
Or only your hologram will attend the large arena football game. After 75 years I still fail to understand the game crowd mentality. Lemmings screaming and crushing and rushing over the cliff.
But for the future and the day I give up my car, I am building AMTRACK points with my credit card use.
Posted by: Cal lash | June 11, 2016 at 09:21 AM
It may make more sense to have a "Union Station" at Sky Harbor Airport than in Downtown Phoenix.
The light rail station at 44th and Washington Streets connects to the Airport Sky Train. There are freight railroad tracks just south of that property and an inter-city rail station could be built at that location thereby integrating it with the light rail and the sky train.
The Airport is located in close proximity to Downtown Phoenix and in between Downtown Phoenix and Downtown Tempe, both of which are the urban cores of the Phoenix metropolitan area.
Moreover, intercity travelers tend to carry luggage and the airport station provides passengers from Tucson and Los Angeles direct airport connectivity while offering a choice of travel between Downtown Phoenix and Downtown Tempe.
Posted by: Sanjeev Ramchandra | June 11, 2016 at 02:12 PM
It makes more sense to centralize things downtown. Any city that wants to compete for talent and capital needs a real downtown. This is not brain surgery.
Posted by: Rogue Columnist | June 11, 2016 at 02:15 PM
it's not either/or, it's both. There should be a commuter/intercity rail station at 44th st. and Downtown Phx. While 44th will be an important intermodal station for air/rail, Union Station will be the rail hub, as Downtown is the nexus of the north/south/east/west LRT lines, as well as local bus lines (plus it's Downtown and should be the hub for that reason alone)
Posted by: Ex Phx Planner | June 11, 2016 at 02:40 PM
There are no brain surgeons downtown. Only drones working on kornputers. Joe, you are thinking outside the box. It must be lonely.
Posted by: Mombo Number Five | June 11, 2016 at 02:57 PM
Joe does not live in a high rise box and Mombo sees reality. The future is the fire next time as Climate Change turns the ashalt into boiling cauldrons.
Posted by: Cal lash | June 11, 2016 at 03:28 PM
Ex Phx Planner, what is your email address? I want to send you a light rail plan that I had sent out to Phoenix and Valley Metro.
Posted by: Sanjeev Ramchandra | June 11, 2016 at 05:38 PM
I believe that going forward things will become more decentralized, or suburban if you will.
Automation, technology and innovation will provide the means to decentralize. It's inevitable.
I'm able to visit many downtown areas as an airline pilot. I'm currently in downtown Tampa, and tomorrow I'll be downtown Albuquerque. I'm often in downtown Seattle. It's fun to walk around the downtowns, I've ventured around all the major ones in the US.
If I ever go shopping in a downtown area and find something I'm interested in purchasing I use "red laser" on my phone, purchase the product online for cheaper and it's waiting for me upon my arrival home in Phoenix.
Technology is going to change cities and I agree, it's not brain surgery.
Posted by: Joe | June 11, 2016 at 05:57 PM